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Droote
05-24-2009, 07:39 PM
This has probably been discussed thousands of times, but I want to know how people can think that Konata and Kagami are having a lesbian relationship with each other.
Many people have made D?jinshis (amatuer-made manga) abouth they being a couple.
I've seen all episodes and the OVA, but hasn't read the mangas (I don't know Japanese, but the first volume in ENglish is coming here in June:D), and by watching them, I did not see any hints that Konata and Kagami are a pair.

Misao
05-24-2009, 07:46 PM
This has probably been discussed thousands of times, but I want to know how people can think that Konata and Kagami are having a lesbian relationship with each other.
Many people have made D?jinshis (amatuer-made manga) abouth they being a couple.
I've seen all episodes and the OVA, but hasn't read the mangas (I don't know Japanese, but the first volume in ENglish is coming here in June:D), and by watching them, I did not see any hints that Konata and Kagami are a pair.


This has been the longest and most discussed fan theory of the show. There ARE signs, but they are basically Konata playing with Kagami's mind as she play-flirts with her just to get her annoyed. Also Kagami has some shifting attitudes toward a possible relationship in her life, but that's mainly because she is lonely and often hides her feelings below a cover of anger.

Supernova141
05-24-2009, 07:52 PM
this topic is both new and interesting...

Droote
05-24-2009, 07:58 PM
This has been the longest and most discussed fan theory of the show. There ARE signs, but they are basically Konata playing with Kagami's mind as she play-flirts with her just to get her annoyed. Also Kagami has some shifting attitudes toward a possible relationship in her life, but that's mainly because she is lonely and often hides her feelings below a cover of anger.


I think it's pretty obvious that Kagami is attracted to boys. Remember that episode when she was meeting this guy, and she thought it was a boy who liked her, but really he just wanted the little key ring animal?

CYBERDISC
05-24-2009, 08:04 PM
meh i dont think they're up to something, but the "relationship" b/w Yutaka and Minami arouses me ^^ :P

Misao
05-24-2009, 08:07 PM
This has been the longest and most discussed fan theory of the show. There ARE signs, but they are basically Konata playing with Kagami's mind as she play-flirts with her just to get her annoyed. Also Kagami has some shifting attitudes toward a possible relationship in her life, but that's mainly because she is lonely and often hides her feelings below a cover of anger.


I think it's pretty obvious that Kagami is attracted to boys. Remember that episode when she was meeting this guy, and she thought it was a boy who liked her, but really he just wanted the little key ring animal?


Oh yes, they're all obviously into boys. I wasn't talking about Kagami's struggle with her SPECIAL feelings for Konata, because there are none. She's simply a best friend.[hr]

meh i dont think they're up to something, but the "relationship" b/w Yutaka and Minami arouses me ^^ :P


KyoAni probably intended for fans to feel that way about Yukata x Minami, so as to actually poke fun at the way fans tend to see more than what is there.

Dally
05-25-2009, 12:14 AM
Well, I don't really think that Konata and Kagami are having a lesbian relationship with each other.
But, like Misao said, there are signs of it, so I don't really know...

Droote
05-25-2009, 12:29 AM
I just don't see any signs of lesbian relationship. I am going to see the series through again soon, and this time I will look really good for any hints of any kind of relationship.

Dally
05-25-2009, 12:39 AM
I just don't see any signs of lesbian relationship. I am going to see the series through again soon, and this time I will look really good for any hints of any kind of relationship.



There was ONE hint I noticed in an episode where they were celebrating Valentine's Day when Konata said to Kagami that it really turns her on when she gave her the Velentine's Day chocolate O-o

Droote
05-25-2009, 12:57 AM
I just don't see any signs of lesbian relationship. I am going to see the series through again soon, and this time I will look really good for any hints of any kind of relationship.



There was ONE hint I noticed in an episode where they were celebrating Valentine's Day when Konata said to Kagami that it really turns her on when she gave her the Velentine's Day chocolate O-o


I just watched that part right now, and it seems to me that Konata is only saying that in jest, like to tease Kagami.

Misao
05-25-2009, 01:09 AM
I just don't see any signs of lesbian relationship. I am going to see the series through again soon, and this time I will look really good for any hints of any kind of relationship.



There was ONE hint I noticed in an episode where they were celebrating Valentine's Day when Konata said to Kagami that it really turns her on when she gave her the Velentine's Day chocolate O-o


I just watched that part right now, and it seems to me that Konata is only saying that in jest, like to tease Kagami.


Oh, Konata is just toying with Kagami, the sweet little minx! XD

Konata Suzumiya
05-25-2009, 06:54 AM
the OVA was hilarious all the same though

Supernova141
05-25-2009, 08:01 AM
the OVA was hilarious all the same though


Oh yea, Tsukasa's reaction was priceless xP

Kona
05-25-2009, 08:46 AM
Body language.

To me it was relevant that kagami had some type of feelings towards konata in the first episode.

when kagami is home sick, she blushes when konata comes over (but doesnt when miyuki comes over)

blushing when giving konata her chocolate

playing with her hair

Its strongly suggested in the anime that theres something goin on between the two. I think Konata sees it as playing around but kagami takes it as flirting.

That and i have to stress the lyrics to 100% Nai Nai Nai. The lyrics pretty much confirms that kagami has feelings towards konata.

Sutii-chan
05-25-2009, 11:18 AM
Does anyone have a clue what does she say when she wakes up in the OVA
When she has that strange dream
She wants to do WHAT with konata?! (or related to her)

patchis-forest
05-25-2009, 02:32 PM
you mean kagami?
she says i'm a toad.
konata is a frog.
i didn't really get that part of the OVA. kagami's always behind konata. yet, i don't like that pairing. >.<

Droote
05-25-2009, 02:49 PM
Does anyone have a clue what does she say when she wakes up in the OVA
When she has that strange dream
She wants to do WHAT with konata?! (or related to her)


She says that she wants her body with Konata's body, which simply means she wants to have sex with Konata.
Or she doesn't say that she really wants that, but Konata (in the dream) forces her to say that she wants to.

Konata_is_Mine
05-25-2009, 03:06 PM
The OVA is the only real hint that i found, besides I refuse to believe that Konata and Kagami are in a relationship, It would mean Konata isn't mine -_-

Droote
05-25-2009, 03:20 PM
Body language.

To me it was relevant that kagami had some type of feelings towards konata in the first episode.

when kagami is home sick, she blushes when konata comes over (but doesnt when miyuki comes over)

blushing when giving konata her chocolate

playing with her hair

Its strongly suggested in the anime that theres something goin on between the two. I think Konata sees it as playing around but kagami takes it as flirting.

That and i have to stress the lyrics to 100% Nai Nai Nai. The lyrics pretty much confirms that kagami has feelings towards konata.


All of this make sense. Kagami is clearly touched when Konata comes over to visit her, but is it because she likes Konata as a friend, or as something more?
Kagami has no best-friends, and when she saw that Konata came to visit and seemed to care about other things than just games and manga, Kagami perhaps became touched because she saw that she had a best-friend?

100% Nai Nai Nai's lyrics are a bit suspicious. It could be about Kagami thinking of Konata as her best-friend, but sometimes the lyrics go a little over the top. Especially this part:
"So you're one hundred percent satisfied?
There's no way, right? Even if there was, I had hope, you know"

What hope did Kagami have?[hr]
And on 100% Nai Nai Nai's cover, who is the stars? Notice that Kagami's blushing too.
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL388/12098571/21515058/354030328.jpg

Shiraishi-kun
05-25-2009, 05:35 PM
I honestly don't know what to think, to be completely honest. Me, my sister and both my friend Andrew and Marcel all have different views on the matter. My sister refuses all possibility that Konata and Kagami in love with each other, and takes Konata's playful sexual-harrassment as just another way to make Kagami angry (you gotta admit, it's damn funny when Kagami loses her cool). My friend Marcel thinks that Kagami may have mixed feelings towards Konata and doesn't know how to express or deal with them. Same with Konata. Andrew just doesn't care.

I, however, am conflicted between my sister's opinion and Marcel's opinion. Hints are dropped throughout the series that something deeper is going on between the two, but it is never really shown to any sort of fuller extent or blatantly shown upfront. I also think that the little scene in the OVA was supposed to be a mix between fanservice and also poking fun at the people who support the pairing (I do,to a small extent). And, as said above, the lyrics to 100% Nai Nai Nai are a little suspicious. But, then again, Kagami Yoshimizu (creator of Lucky Star) has stated himself that there is "no romance" in the series, neither in manga or anime form. Then there's the supposed fanservice-y things I've heard of the pairing from the Moe Drill and Ryouou Gakuen Otosai games...

Someone needs to approach the creators on this one specific subject (both Kagami Yoshimizu and Kyoto Animation) and get a straight answer. I don't like it that manga and anime creators keep so tightlipped on such subjects as these, so we really just need the answer to come out of SOMEONE official. Because at this point, all we can do is dryly speculate.

Supernova141
05-25-2009, 05:49 PM
The hints that are dropped through out the series are just meant to tease the viewer. The only confirmed lesbian is Hiyori, she's bi. Konata and kagami both talk about getting boyfriends at one point or another in the show. They will NEVER do it outside of doujin and fanfics.

No, Minami and Yutaka are not lesbians either.

Live with it.

Misao
05-25-2009, 06:17 PM
All of this make sense. Kagami is clearly touched when Konata comes over to visit her, but is it because she likes Konata as a friend, or as something more?
Kagami has no best-friends, and when she saw that Konata came to visit and seemed to care about other things than just games and manga, Kagami perhaps became touched because she saw that she had a best-friend?



I think that's the best reason for that scene. Don't forget that by this time, their friendship is still sort of new- we know they only met each other for 2 years close to the time they graduated- so Kagami may have been debating what her status is with Konata in her mind, and that moment confirmed it. Plus, did you SEE Konata's expression when she was watching her sleep?



100% Nai Nai Nai's lyrics are a bit suspicious. It could be about Kagami thinking of Konata as her best-friend, but sometimes the lyrics go a little over the top. Especially this part:
"So you're one hundred percent satisfied?
There's no way, right? Even if there was, I had hope, you know"

What hope did Kagami have?[hr]
And on 100% Nai Nai Nai's cover, who is the stars? Notice that Kagami's blushing too.
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL388/12098571/21515058/354030328.jpg


Kagami blushes a lot.[hr]

The hints that are dropped through out the series are just meant to tease the viewer. The only confirmed lesbian is Hiyori, she's bi. Konata and kagami both talk about getting boyfriends at one point or another in the show. They will NEVER do it outside of doujin and fanfics.

No, Minami and Yutaka are not lesbians either.

Live with it.


Yeah like I said, they basically put Tukata and Minami there to POKE FUN at how WE as fans tend to exaggerate what is there.

CYBERDISC
05-25-2009, 07:39 PM
The hints that are dropped through out the series are just meant to tease the viewer. The only confirmed lesbian is Hiyori, she's bi. Konata and kagami both talk about getting boyfriends at one point or another in the show. They will NEVER do it outside of doujin and fanfics.

No, Minami and Yutaka are not lesbians either.

Live with it.


How do u know Hiyori is lesbian? or bi? never knew of that one.

Supernova141
05-25-2009, 07:55 PM
The hints that are dropped through out the series are just meant to tease the viewer. The only confirmed lesbian is Hiyori, she's bi. Konata and kagami both talk about getting boyfriends at one point or another in the show. They will NEVER do it outside of doujin and fanfics.

No, Minami and Yutaka are not lesbians either.

Live with it.


How do u know Hiyori is lesbian? or bi? never knew of that one.


She draws both yuri and yaoi doujins.

plus her character song goes "yuri yuri, something something shota"

(shota is boy loli)

kirant
05-25-2009, 10:12 PM
As far as I can tell, Konata and Kagami share a fairly common "odd couple" relationship, with Kagami taking on the role of the straight man...with the script written by people who KNOW how we think and love to poke fun at us that way.

People love to dig deeper into written lines than may be completely existant. I mean, sure, Konata does take some cases take so time to openly make Kagami feel uncomfortable by openly "flirting" with her, but it really does amount to nothing out of the ordinary. I can't see it meaning more than Konata feeling comfertable enough around Kagami that she wouldn't actually get p***ed off at Konata for doing it.

The "proofs" of this relationship that I have seen so far are from:
1) The first episode. Kagami has a brief interior monolouge expressing how she never expected Konata to visit. In addition, before Kagami wakes up, Konata states that Kagami looks very cute.
2) The Valentine's Day scene. Konata says something to the effect of "getting chocolates from [Kagami] turns her on"
3) The 100% Nai Nai Nai lyrics. I can't say much to them, as I haven't studied the song nor the lyrics myself.
4) Kagami's behavior changes around Konata period.

Now...my interpretation of each of them is:
1) This seems more introducing us to Kagami's character and selective memory. Firstly, this does give us a good opprotunity to notice the -dere side of Kagami's Tsundere attitude. Secondly, after the visit, Kagami has a relatively similar (non-interior) statement with Miyuki, bubbles and all. Though the latter statement isn't as profound as the one that caused this to be called "evidence", I believe that this scene is much more platonic that people interpret it to be.

In addition with the comment of how Kagami looks cute while sleeping, I've seen that used in any sort of scenario. It is too general a case to be used as any sort of primary proof. It also opens itself up to the option that Konata knew Kagami was awake and was teasing her.

2) More harmless teasing. The background supports this with the animated "tail" to the kanji. To further back this one up, Konata's eyes make a star-esc sparkle, which seems to foretell either a joke or excitement from Konata (from what I can tell)

4) I'm not sure. I'll have to review the show to decide anything on it.

Kona
05-25-2009, 10:16 PM
so we really just need the answer to come out of SOMEONE official.

Is official art good enough? Spoiler tag is to save space.

http://anime2.kokidokom.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/konata-x-kagami.jpg

And i dont think Hiyori is a confirmed bi. Her character song IS about yaoi and yuri, but then again shes a doujin artist and thats how they would sell.

Supernova141
05-25-2009, 10:30 PM
And i dont think Hiyori is a confirmed bi. Her character song IS about yaoi and yuri, but then again shes a doujin artist and thats how they would sell.


I guess fantasizing about Minami and Yutaka doesn't make her bi either... -_-"

Kona
05-25-2009, 10:35 PM
And i dont think Hiyori is a confirmed bi. Her character song IS about yaoi and yuri, but then again shes a doujin artist and thats how they would sell.


I guess fantasizing about Minami and Yutaka doesn't make her bi either... -_-"


Hmm maybe its because i didnt give it any thought before. But now that i think about it Hiyori probably is bi.

Droote
05-26-2009, 12:37 AM
Is that really official art?
I don't know what to interpret from that.

Dally
05-26-2009, 12:53 AM
Is that really official art?
I don't know what to interpret from that.



...In a way, it's not REALLY official art, I think a magazine made that fanart or something...

Droote
05-26-2009, 01:05 AM
If it is a magazine printing fanart it couldn't be called official art, now could it?

Kona
05-26-2009, 02:02 AM
Its official art that was published in megami. That and all the official posters ive seen have that seal kinda thing on it. hard to see in that pic.

Droote
05-26-2009, 02:03 AM
Perhaps not easy to find, but do you have any sources?

Kona
05-26-2009, 02:08 AM
These are the only two i could refer to as sources.

Here (http://anime2.kokidokom.net/konata-x-kagami/)

And here (http://brokenanime.com/2008/05/06/foiled-again/)

Droote
05-26-2009, 02:14 AM
I see.
Well, what to think about this?
Is it perhaps made to tease/joke with the fans? Or is it made out of popular demands?
It is very erotic. Too erotic compared to what we have seen in the show.

Supernova141
05-26-2009, 02:59 AM
They want people to watch the show for the yuri undertones, but they don't want the show to be a yuri.

It's that simple.

kirant
05-26-2009, 07:31 AM
I still believe that genre savvy authors love to make us speculate stuff.

Droote
05-26-2009, 11:01 PM
New theory:
It is quite obvious (it is at least to me) that Kagami is the one most crazy about boys and love. Just notice her reaction when Konata tells Kagami that she is giving chocolate to a boy on Valentine's Day.
If Kagami has any feelings for Konata more than just as a friend, could it be perhaps because she is "lovesick"? Like, she really wants a boyfriend because that is shown pretty clearly on the show. And when Kagmi never gets any boyfriend, she turns to the "second best thing" and perhaps falls in love with Konata? Konata is the most boy-ish character on the show, so it could perhaps be a replacement fro a real boy?

In other news, I found this picture. Dunno if it's real, but it seemed pretty professional:
http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2008/10/16/633597603292941412-konataandkagami.jpg

I know it's big, but I don't know how to use those spoiler tags.

CYBERDISC
05-26-2009, 11:05 PM
New theory:
It is quite obvious (it is at least to me) that Kagami is the one most crazy about boys and love. Just notice her reaction when Konata tells Kagami that she is giving chocolate to a boy on Valentine's Day.
If Kagami has any feelings for Konata more than just as a friend, could it be perhaps because she is "lovesick"? Like, she really wants a boyfriend because that is shown pretty clearly on the show. And when Kagmi never gets any boyfriend, she turns to the "second best thing" and perhaps falls in love with Konata? Konata is the most boy-ish character on the show, so it could perhaps be a replacement fro a real boy?

PHOTO

I know it's big, but I don't know how to use those spoiler tags.


lol that photo is pretty arousing ^^ but nah, i dont think konata is that boyish, just if u compare her with the other girls, but she herself is just normally girly. and btw its very well done, but certain details unveil it's fanmadeness, the fingers for example lol, but very very well assimilated to the lucky star style

Droote
05-26-2009, 11:07 PM
Konata is perhaps not boy-ish, but I think she is the most boy-ish girl on the show. Both physically and mentally.

Misao
05-26-2009, 11:12 PM
Konata is perhaps not boy-ish, but I think she is the most boy-ish girl on the show. Both physically and mentally.


I was going to say! Konata IS very boyish. And Droote, that's a very interesting analysis on Kagami's thinking. While Konata is obviously getting a thrill out of annoying her, Kagami in turn has shown signs of returning the favor ON occasion, but nowhere near as frequently- i.e., making fun of her height by placing a hand on her head, or LEANING on her head.

CYBERDISC
05-26-2009, 11:17 PM
Konata is perhaps not boy-ish, but I think she is the most boy-ish girl on the show. Both physically and mentally.


hmm i say only half-mentally, but not physically at all, y'know , it's not like she has hairy breasts and legs... lol, there are many flat-breasted girls, that doesn's means they're boyish, she has just, umm lets say, some kind of small growth-deficency, not to the point yo could mark it as a syndrome, just a notable trait she has, like, her mom for example

Droote
05-27-2009, 12:01 AM
I was going to say! Konata IS very boyish. And Droote, that's a very interesting analysis on Kagami's thinking. While Konata is obviously getting a thrill out of annoying her, Kagami in turn has shown signs of returning the favor ON occasion, but nowhere near as frequently- i.e., making fun of her height by placing a hand on her head, or LEANING on her head.


Exactly!



hmm i say only half-mentally, but not physically at all, y'know , it's not like she has hairy breasts and legs... lol, there are many flat-breasted girls, that doesn's means they're boyish, she has just, umm lets say, some kind of small growth-deficency, not to the point yo could mark it as a syndrome, just a notable trait she has, like, her mom for example


I know that. Men are often taller than women, and being tall is not one of Konata's features.
And, by boy-ish, I don't mean that I see her as a boy in a girl's body. She just behaves (quite often) like many boys do. Her interests are often common among boys, and she plays game designed for boys.
Of course she is a girl, but "less girlier" than the rest of her friends.

CYBERDISC
05-27-2009, 01:09 AM
Exactly!

[quote=CYBERDISC]




I know that. Men are often taller than women, and being tall is not one of Konata's features.
And, by boy-ish, I don't mean that I see her as a boy in a girl's body. She just behaves (quite often) like many boys do. Her interests are often common among boys, and she plays game designed for boys.
Of course she is a girl, but "less girlier" than the rest of her friends.


yeah that :P

Supernova141
05-27-2009, 02:06 AM
Minami is the most boyish one because shes the man of her's and yutaka's relationship. Misao is second because she just seems like the toughest.(or maybe i just have that impression of her from the fanfic im reading...)

CYBERDISC
05-27-2009, 02:24 AM
Minami is the most boyish one because shes the man of her's and yutaka's relationship. Misao is second because she just seems like the toughest.(or maybe i just have that impression of her from the fanfic im reading...)

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no. . . Noo... AND NO! hell she's not, tell me what boyish girl would wish to have breast MUHAHah , the fact that she "is" the man in that relationship is just random lol, and idk wtf r u guys talking about that stuff like "she is the man in the relationship", an lesbi homosexual rela is an homosexual rela, and theres no gender differenciation or imaginary role in that kind of relationship, only many few times ives seen that, and it's not something ppl should have as an archetype in a homosexual relationship (not that i agree with homo relas, but is a certain fact, and here we r talking about lesbian homo relas [in man x man homo relas that looks even worst], also Minami x Yutaka = Kawaiii :3, and they both as girls look good like that, not that one of them has to be the man of the couple, the same to the Kagami x Konata paradox whatever the outcome is with that, which i think they actually are just friends lol)

Droote
05-27-2009, 02:34 AM
Minami and Yutaka are just friends! It is yuri-loving Hiyori who pictures the two as a couple in her mind.

CYBERDISC
05-27-2009, 04:02 AM
yeh i kno! but the idea of them with their fantasies arouses me xD, of course im consent that they're not a couple lol, they just look cute together x3

Misao
05-27-2009, 04:39 AM
Minami is the most boyish one because shes the man of her's and yutaka's relationship. Misao is second because she just seems like the toughest.(or maybe i just have that impression of her from the fanfic im reading...)

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no. . . Noo... AND NO! hell she's not, tell me what boyish girl would wish to have breast MUHAHah , the fact that she "is" the man in that relationship is just random lol, and idk wtf r u guys talking about that stuff like "she is the man in the relationship", an lesbi homosexual rela is an homosexual rela, and theres no gender differenciation or imaginary role in that kind of relationship, only many few times ives seen that, and it's not something ppl should have as an archetype in a homosexual relationship (not that i agree with homo relas, but is a certain fact, and here we r talking about lesbian homo relas [in man x man homo relas that looks even worst], also Minami x Yutaka = Kawaiii :3, and they both as girls look good like that, not that one of them has to be the man of the couple, the same to the Kagami x Konata paradox whatever the outcome is with that, which i think they actually are just friends lol)


Wow.

Minami vs. Konata for Best Man Challenge! GO!

kirant
05-27-2009, 04:47 AM
I dropped a motivation poster. Can you help me find it (Because I don't understand spoiler tags yet, I'll just give you the link)?
http://animewriter.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/lucky-star-yuri-motivator.jpg

Misao
05-27-2009, 04:50 AM
I dropped a motivation poster. Can you help me find it (Because I don't understand spoiler tags yet, I'll just give you the link)?
BLAH


Okay, this is a good and non-sensual afterglow pic! Like they're done with the forwardish discussions and are back on the topics they usually talk about, like pastries. LOL

CYBERDISC
05-27-2009, 05:22 AM
I dropped a motivation poster. Can you help me find it (Because I don't understand spoiler tags yet, I'll just give you the link)?
BLAH


Okay, this is a good and non-sensual afterglow pic! Like they're done with the forwardish discussions and are back on the topics they usually talk about, like pastries. LOL


lmao- Kagami, standing in the bathroom door: "hey tiger , come here ;)" .... Konata, lying on the bed "no, YOU come here!"

Supernova141
05-27-2009, 05:26 AM
@ Misao:

there is no competition, Konata isn't manly at all, she's just perverted. Minami always protects Yutaka and looks out for her. That's what makes her the man.

which brings me to CYBERDISC.

In lesbian relationships, for the most part, there is usualy one who is the "man". The one who is more dominant, more protective, and possibly physicaly stronger is the "man". Just think about it, picture Minami as a boy, but acting the same as she usualy does, not too hard to believe, right? Now picture Yutaka as a man, relying on his girlfriend for protection. I don't think so...

CYBERDISC
05-27-2009, 06:06 AM
@ Misao:

there is no competition, Konata isn't manly at all, she's just perverted. Minami always protects Yutaka and looks out for her. That's what makes her the man.

which brings me to CYBERDISC.

In lesbian relationships, for the most part, there is usualy one who is the "man". The one who is more dominant, more protective, and possibly physicaly stronger is the "man". Just think about it, picture Minami as a boy, but acting the same as she usualy does, not too hard to believe, right? Now picture Yutaka as a man, relying on his girlfriend for protection. I don't think so...


well , yeah, i agree, but is just that "man" doesn't sounds good for that role, there should be a word for that, man just doesn't sounds (for me)

Supernova141
05-27-2009, 06:32 AM
@ Misao:

there is no competition, Konata isn't manly at all, she's just perverted. Minami always protects Yutaka and looks out for her. That's what makes her the man.

which brings me to CYBERDISC.

In lesbian relationships, for the most part, there is usualy one who is the "man". The one who is more dominant, more protective, and possibly physicaly stronger is the "man". Just think about it, picture Minami as a boy, but acting the same as she usualy does, not too hard to believe, right? Now picture Yutaka as a man, relying on his girlfriend for protection. I don't think so...


well , yeah, i agree, but is just that "man" doesn't sounds good for that role, there should be a word for that, man just doesn't sounds (for me)


There is, it's called "butch" ;)

Not very appealing to the ears, so let's just say the "man" of the relationship, shall we?

CYBERDISC
05-27-2009, 06:40 AM
[quote=Supernova1337]


There is, it's called "butch" ;)

Not very appealing to the ears, so let's just say the "man" of the relationship, shall we?


crap... didn't know of that one, well you're a smart one, aren't you? well, so be it , "man" from now on when talking about that role

Konata_is_Mine
05-27-2009, 01:16 PM
I think that its clearly a best friend type relation-ship, my sisters do those things to their friends,

7h3101im4idw0lf
05-27-2009, 11:47 PM
I read all posts uptill page 3 but I'm sorry, I have to get this out


WHAT WE WANT:

Konata and kagami are lesbians, that's what we want to see, what kyoani and kagami(the author) did was pretty ingenious...

The scenes that are played can be interpreted BOTH ways, depending on the viewers thoughts on the subject, but kyoani defintely went too far with 100% nai nai nai...

Waaaay too many suspicious lines, as states before, "you're 100% satisfied? I still had hope..." was too far, plus how she's going "oh god, why are we in different classes" is also a bit far when put together with the other lines

Now one MAY say "oh well she's referring to tsukasa" but think of it, during the whole song, it's obvious she's referring to konata "Ill show you my homework,I'll even help you buy those suspicious items" obviously, the only onein the anime who would buy "suspicious" items is konata and the although the anime imples thy kagami helps tsukasa with her homework, konata copying off kagami is clearly states and shown in the anime.

Considering all this, it's obvious kagami is ggoing deredere for konata..


However


Most of the"solid" proof is kyoanis OWN doing, yoshimizu(author) did not partake in the creation of the OVA OR the char songs...

In the anime itself, there are absolutely no DEFINITE evidence for the konakaga pairing...

But he DOES put scenes, as I've states before, scenes that can e interpreted differently depending on the person.

REALITY AND WHATS DEFINITE:

Like I said, it all depends on interpretation but when you think of it, aren't girls much more open and "touchy touchy" then guys?
You see girls running up to each other and hugging and holding hands all the time, now most of us ere are guys right?
What we may be doing is using OUR standards for "affection", note that girls are a bit different from us guys...

Oh and minami and yutaka aren't lesbians, same idea with the whole "girls are different" sense

Plus you always have that girl who's really open in that sense, the one who's all smiles and hugs and friendhip, the little angel of the class




In conclusion it's all depending on interpretation, yoshimizu was once asked about the whole konakaga thing in a interview but he refused to reply to that question, which shows that he probably doesn't have a definite and knows he's playing around the viewers





Edit:

That's one he'll of a long response I wrote on a itouch...[hr]

@ Misao:

there is no competition, Konata isn't manly at all, she's just perverted. Minami always protects Yutaka and looks out for her. That's what makes her the man.

which brings me to CYBERDISC.

In lesbian relationships, for the most part, there is usualy one who is the "man". The one who is more dominant, more protective, and possibly physicaly stronger is the "man". Just think about it, picture Minami as a boy, but acting the same as she usualy does, not too hard to believe, right? Now picture Yutaka as a man, relying on his girlfriend for protection. I don't think so...


Hey stop making konata sound bad jus cuz u don't like her... Fangface...(lol reference to last nights role playing thread)

Supernova141
05-28-2009, 12:25 AM
I read all posts uptill page 3 but I'm sorry, I have to get this out


WHAT WE WANT:

Konata and kagami are lesbians, that's what we want to see, what kyoani and kagami(the author) did was pretty ingenious...

The scenes that are played can be interpreted BOTH ways, depending on the viewers thoughts on the subject, but kyoani defintely went too far with 100% nai nai nai...

Waaaay too many suspicious lines, as states before, "you're 100% satisfied? I still had hope..." was too far, plus how she's going "oh god, why are we in different classes" is also a bit far when put together with the other lines

Now one MAY say "oh well she's referring to tsukasa" but think of it, during the whole song, it's obvious she's referring to konata "Ill show you my homework,I'll even help you buy those suspicious items" obviously, the only onein the anime who would buy "suspicious" items is konata and the although the anime imples thy kagami helps tsukasa with her homework, konata copying off kagami is clearly states and shown in the anime.

Considering all this, it's obvious kagami is ggoing deredere for konata..


However


Most of the"solid" proof is kyoanis OWN doing, yoshimizu(author) did not partake in the creation of the OVA OR the char songs...

In the anime itself, there are absolutely no DEFINITE evidence for the konakaga pairing...

But he DOES put scenes, as I've states before, scenes that can e interpreted differently depending on the person.

REALITY AND WHATS DEFINITE:

Like I said, it all depends on interpretation but when you think of it, aren't girls much more open and "touchy touchy" then guys?
You see girls running up to each other and hugging and holding hands all the time, now most of us ere are guys right?
What we may be doing is using OUR standards for "affection", note that girls are a bit different from us guys...

Oh and minami and yutaka aren't lesbians, same idea with the whole "girls are different" sense

Plus you always have that girl who's really open in that sense, the one who's all smiles and hugs and friendhip, the little angel of the class




In conclusion it's all depending on interpretation, yoshimizu was once asked about the whole konakaga thing in a interview but he refused to reply to that question, which shows that he probably doesn't have a definite and knows he's playing around the viewers





Edit:

That's one he'll of a long response I wrote on a itouch...[hr]

@ Misao:

there is no competition, Konata isn't manly at all, she's just perverted. Minami always protects Yutaka and looks out for her. That's what makes her the man.

which brings me to CYBERDISC.

In lesbian relationships, for the most part, there is usualy one who is the "man". The one who is more dominant, more protective, and possibly physicaly stronger is the "man". Just think about it, picture Minami as a boy, but acting the same as she usualy does, not too hard to believe, right? Now picture Yutaka as a man, relying on his girlfriend for protection. I don't think so...


Hey stop making konata sound bad jus cuz u don't like her... Fangface...(lol reference to last nights role playing thread)


Wow, good analysis. You sure know a lot about this show.

And WTF?! I said she wasn't manly! That's a good thing! When i said "she's just perverted" I meant that being perverted is generally a stereotype of guys.

7h3101im4idw0lf
05-28-2009, 12:34 AM
I read all posts uptill page 3 but I'm sorry, I have to get this out


WHAT WE WANT:

Konata and kagami are lesbians, that's what we want to see, what kyoani and kagami(the author) did was pretty ingenious...

The scenes that are played can be interpreted BOTH ways, depending on the viewers thoughts on the subject, but kyoani defintely went too far with 100% nai nai nai...

Waaaay too many suspicious lines, as states before, "you're 100% satisfied? I still had hope..." was too far, plus how she's going "oh god, why are we in different classes" is also a bit far when put together with the other lines

Now one MAY say "oh well she's referring to tsukasa" but think of it, during the whole song, it's obvious she's referring to konata "Ill show you my homework,I'll even help you buy those suspicious items" obviously, the only onein the anime who would buy "suspicious" items is konata and the although the anime imples thy kagami helps tsukasa with her homework, konata copying off kagami is clearly states and shown in the anime.

Considering all this, it's obvious kagami is ggoing deredere for konata..


However


Most of the"solid" proof is kyoanis OWN doing, yoshimizu(author) did not partake in the creation of the OVA OR the char songs...

In the anime itself, there are absolutely no DEFINITE evidence for the konakaga pairing...

But he DOES put scenes, as I've states before, scenes that can e interpreted differently depending on the person.

REALITY AND WHATS DEFINITE:

Like I said, it all depends on interpretation but when you think of it, aren't girls much more open and "touchy touchy" then guys?
You see girls running up to each other and hugging and holding hands all the time, now most of us ere are guys right?
What we may be doing is using OUR standards for "affection", note that girls are a bit different from us guys...

Oh and minami and yutaka aren't lesbians, same idea with the whole "girls are different" sense

Plus you always have that girl who's really open in that sense, the one who's all smiles and hugs and friendhip, the little angel of the class




In conclusion it's all depending on interpretation, yoshimizu was once asked about the whole konakaga thing in a interview but he refused to reply to that question, which shows that he probably doesn't have a definite and knows he's playing around the viewers





Edit:

That's one he'll of a long response I wrote on a itouch...[hr]

@ Misao:

there is no competition, Konata isn't manly at all, she's just perverted. Minami always protects Yutaka and looks out for her. That's what makes her the man.

which brings me to CYBERDISC.

In lesbian relationships, for the most part, there is usualy one who is the "man". The one who is more dominant, more protective, and possibly physicaly stronger is the "man". Just think about it, picture Minami as a boy, but acting the same as she usualy does, not too hard to believe, right? Now picture Yutaka as a man, relying on his girlfriend for protection. I don't think so...


Hey stop making konata sound bad jus cuz u don't like her... Fangface...(lol reference to last nights role playing thread)


Wow, good analysis. You sure know a lot about this show.

And WTF?! I said she wasn't manly! That's a good thing! When i said "she's just perverted" I meant that being perverted is generally a stereotype of guys.


Well thanks for the compliment (I hope that was a compliment -_-)
I tend to know slot about animes that I like (watched lucky star at least 4 times, whole series, I know quite a bit)

And if you had meant what u said about konata as a compliment, my bad[hr]


I read all posts uptill page 3 but I'm sorry, I have to get this out


WHAT WE WANT:

Konata and kagami are lesbians, that's what we want to see, what kyoani and kagami(the author) did was pretty ingenious...

The scenes that are played can be interpreted BOTH ways, depending on the viewers thoughts on the subject, but kyoani defintely went too far with 100% nai nai nai...

Waaaay too many suspicious lines, as states before, "you're 100% satisfied? I still had hope..." was too far, plus how she's going "oh god, why are we in different classes" is also a bit far when put together with the other lines

Now one MAY say "oh well she's referring to tsukasa" but think of it, during the whole song, it's obvious she's referring to konata "Ill show you my homework,I'll even help you buy those suspicious items" obviously, the only onein the anime who would buy "suspicious" items is konata and the although the anime imples thy kagami helps tsukasa with her homework, konata copying off kagami is clearly states and shown in the anime.

Considering all this, it's obvious kagami is ggoing deredere for konata..


However


Most of the"solid" proof is kyoanis OWN doing, yoshimizu(author) did not partake in the creation of the OVA OR the char songs...

In the anime itself, there are absolutely no DEFINITE evidence for the konakaga pairing...

But he DOES put scenes, as I've states before, scenes that can e interpreted differently depending on the person.

REALITY AND WHATS DEFINITE:

Like I said, it all depends on interpretation but when you think of it, aren't girls much more open and "touchy touchy" then guys?
You see girls running up to each other and hugging and holding hands all the time, now most of us ere are guys right?
What we may be doing is using OUR standards for "affection", note that girls are a bit different from us guys...

Oh and minami and yutaka aren't lesbians, same idea with the whole "girls are different" sense

Plus you always have that girl who's really open in that sense, the one who's all smiles and hugs and friendhip, the little angel of the class




In conclusion it's all depending on interpretation, yoshimizu was once asked about the whole konakaga thing in a interview but he refused to reply to that question, which shows that he probably doesn't have a definite and knows he's playing around the viewers





Edit:

That's one he'll of a long response I wrote on a itouch...[hr]

@ Misao:

there is no competition, Konata isn't manly at all, she's just perverted. Minami always protects Yutaka and looks out for her. That's what makes her the man.

which brings me to CYBERDISC.

In lesbian relationships, for the most part, there is usualy one who is the "man". The one who is more dominant, more protective, and possibly physicaly stronger is the "man". Just think about it, picture Minami as a boy, but acting the same as she usualy does, not too hard to believe, right? Now picture Yutaka as a man, relying on his girlfriend for protection. I don't think so...


Hey stop making konata sound bad jus cuz u don't like her... Fangface...(lol reference to last nights role playing thread)


Wow, good analysis. You sure know a lot about this show.

And WTF?! I said she wasn't manly! That's a good thing! When i said "she's just perverted" I meant that being perverted is generally a stereotype of guys.


Well thanks for the compliment (I hope that was a compliment -_-)
I tend to know slot about animes that I like (watched lucky star at least 4 times, whole series, I know quite a bit)

And if you had meant what u said about konata as a compliment, my bad

kirant
05-28-2009, 12:46 AM
7h3d4rkw0lf: tl;dr. Please start cutting down on what's inside your quotes.

Droote
05-28-2009, 01:30 PM
Funny Yoshimizu didn't want to answer that question. As The Dark Wolf said, it supports the idea of the makers messing with the fans even more.
I think all the signs in the anime are too vague to be used as evidence for Konata and Kagami being a couple or even being in love with each other.
But are the motivated posters real? I know the text under the pictures are fan-written, but the images theirselves, are they official? They appear to me as professional-made.

Supernova141
05-28-2009, 01:57 PM
There's a very simple explination for the poster: fan-service. Nothing happened in the series, so they figured they may as well reward us for being such great fans despite the lack of yuri.

Droote
05-28-2009, 02:05 PM
That sounds like every anime have to contain yuri to be a good anime.
And what about the fans who don't need yuri in their anime to like it?

7h3101im4idw0lf
05-28-2009, 02:17 PM
That sounds like every anime have to contain yuri to be a good anime.
And what about the fans who don't need yuri in their anime to like it?


thats exactly what i think that poster is, fanservice, its completely unrelated to the story and again, to get more fans :P

hey they please us, they deserve a bit of a reward too right? (more fans)

Rhea
05-28-2009, 03:41 PM
Okay, I did not manage to read through this entire thread, so this may have been mentioned before:
Creators like to give fans little hints and fanservice when it comes to the relationships between popular characters. It keeps the fans interested, and the creators can cash in on it by releasing fanservice merchendise (such as all the suggestive posters of Kagami and Konata). It isn't really canon, all that stuff is left to fanfic and doujin writers.

I also think that the reason many of the male L*S fans sees hints of romance between Konata and Kagami is because they're not really aware of how female friendships work. No offense guys, but chances are that you don't ;)

7h3101im4idw0lf
05-28-2009, 03:45 PM
Okay, I did not manage to read through this entire thread, so this may have been mentioned before:
Creators like to give fans little hints and fanservice when it comes to the relationships between popular characters. It keeps the fans interested, and the creators can cash in on it by releasing fanservice merchendise (such as all the suggestive posters of Kagami and Konata). It isn't really canon, all that stuff is left to fanfic and doujin writers.

I also think that the reason many of the male L*S fans sees hints of romance between Konata and Kagami is because they're not really aware of how female friendships work. No offense guys, but chances are that you don't ;)


Rhea, you basically restated what i said in about 1/3rd of my words

Misao
05-28-2009, 03:57 PM
Okay, I did not manage to read through this entire thread, so this may have been mentioned before:
Creators like to give fans little hints and fanservice when it comes to the relationships between popular characters. It keeps the fans interested, and the creators can cash in on it by releasing fanservice merchendise (such as all the suggestive posters of Kagami and Konata). It isn't really canon, all that stuff is left to fanfic and doujin writers.

I also think that the reason many of the male L*S fans sees hints of romance between Konata and Kagami is because they're not really aware of how female friendships work. No offense guys, but chances are that you don't ;)


Rhea, you basically restated what i said in about 1/3rd of my words


Keep mind though, Rhea also said she didn't read the ENTIRE thread before starting her post.

7h3101im4idw0lf
05-28-2009, 04:04 PM
no im not saying that she copied what i said, im saying that shes thinking along my lines too

Droote
05-28-2009, 05:36 PM
Okay, I did not manage to read through this entire thread, so this may have been mentioned before:
Creators like to give fans little hints and fanservice when it comes to the relationships between popular characters. It keeps the fans interested, and the creators can cash in on it by releasing fanservice merchendise (such as all the suggestive posters of Kagami and Konata). It isn't really canon, all that stuff is left to fanfic and doujin writers.

I also think that the reason many of the male L*S fans sees hints of romance between Konata and Kagami is because they're not really aware of how female friendships work. No offense guys, but chances are that you don't ;)


I absolutely agree.

7h3101im4idw0lf
05-28-2009, 05:40 PM
Okay, I did not manage to read through this entire thread, so this may have been mentioned before:
Creators like to give fans little hints and fanservice when it comes to the relationships between popular characters. It keeps the fans interested, and the creators can cash in on it by releasing fanservice merchendise (such as all the suggestive posters of Kagami and Konata). It isn't really canon, all that stuff is left to fanfic and doujin writers.

I also think that the reason many of the male L*S fans sees hints of romance between Konata and Kagami is because they're not really aware of how female friendships work. No offense guys, but chances are that you don't ;)


I absolutely agree.


what i wrote before


WHAT WE WANT:

Konata and kagami are lesbians, that's what we want to see, what kyoani and kagami(the author) did was pretty ingenious...

The scenes that are played can be interpreted BOTH ways, depending on the viewers thoughts on the subject, but kyoani defintely went too far with 100% nai nai nai...

Waaaay too many suspicious lines, as states before, "you're 100% satisfied? I still had hope..." was too far, plus how she's going "oh god, why are we in different classes" is also a bit far when put together with the other lines

Now one MAY say "oh well she's referring to tsukasa" but think of it, during the whole song, it's obvious she's referring to konata "Ill show you my homework,I'll even help you buy those suspicious items" obviously, the only onein the anime who would buy "suspicious" items is konata and the although the anime imples thy kagami helps tsukasa with her homework, konata copying off kagami is clearly states and shown in the anime.

Considering all this, it's obvious kagami is ggoing deredere for konata..


However


Most of the"solid" proof is kyoanis OWN doing, yoshimizu(author) did not partake in the creation of the OVA OR the char songs...

In the anime itself, there are absolutely no DEFINITE evidence for the konakaga pairing...

But he DOES put scenes, as I've states before, scenes that can e interpreted differently depending on the person.

REALITY AND WHATS DEFINITE:

Like I said, it all depends on interpretation but when you think of it, aren't girls much more open and "touchy touchy" then guys?
You see girls running up to each other and hugging and holding hands all the time, now most of us ere are guys right?
What we may be doing is using OUR standards for "affection", note that girls are a bit different from us guys...

Oh and minami and yutaka aren't lesbians, same idea with the whole "girls are different" sense

Plus you always have that girl who's really open in that sense, the one who's all smiles and hugs and friendhip, the little angel of the class




In conclusion it's all depending on interpretation, yoshimizu was once asked about the whole konakaga thing in a interview but he refused to reply to that question, which shows that he probably doesn't have a definite and knows he's playing around the viewers

Droote
05-28-2009, 05:47 PM
Yeah, I know, but Rhea also said that guys don't really aren't aware of how female friendships work. You kinda did it too, Dark Wolf, but I didn't understand you meant it that way before just now.

7h3101im4idw0lf
05-28-2009, 05:50 PM
mbe my wording was a bit off?

but the way girls treat each other is definetely different from how guys do

Droote
05-28-2009, 05:57 PM
mbe my wording was a bit off?

Or my English is not as good as it should be?


but the way girls treat each other is definetely different from how guys do


It is, and that was what I understood with your post.

7h3101im4idw0lf
05-28-2009, 05:59 PM
mbe my wording was a bit off?

Or my English is not as good as it should be?


but the way girls treat each other is definetely different from how guys do


It is, and that was what I understood with your post.


nah, your english is good

Whitenblade
06-29-2009, 11:16 PM
I agree with both 7h3d4rkw0lf and Rhea. When I saw Images related to this topic, I had an even greater WTF face than the one I pulled when I almost when luna with confusion when I charged into the wrong Yuri Fan Thread (i.e. the one that had nothing to do with C&C). Well, now I have the right state of mind about the whole crazy thing.

Supernova141
06-29-2009, 11:24 PM
I also think that the reason many of the male L*S fans sees hints of romance between Konata and Kagami is because they're not really aware of how female friendships work. No offense guys, but chances are that you don't ;)


I beg to differ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KFo-HZEArA&feature=PlayList&p=1C5CF1B59FC8F9BE&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=29

Misao
06-29-2009, 11:26 PM
I also think that the reason many of the male L*S fans sees hints of romance between Konata and Kagami is because they're not really aware of how female friendships work. No offense guys, but chances are that you don't ;)


I beg to differ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KFo-HZEArA&feature=PlayList&p=1C5CF1B59FC8F9BE&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=29


LOL

I actually agree with Rhea. And I'm a male.

7h3101im4idw0lf
06-30-2009, 07:14 AM
Rofl at that vid >_>

Shiraishi-kun
06-30-2009, 04:30 PM
I'm mainly with Rhea and 7h3d4rkw0lf.

Well, looks like we got this dilemma solved fairly quickly.

...doesn't change the fact that Kona/Kaga's a good pairing... T_T

7h3101im4idw0lf
06-30-2009, 04:58 PM
I won't disagree that konakaga kiks ass (hey I got a whole folder of pics) but like I said


INTERPRETATION

Whitenblade
06-30-2009, 09:36 PM
I'm just perplexed by the whole thing. Ask me to give you an opinion, and I swear I will hand out the most single-sided opinion you could imagine... or bother imagining. So my opinion is... well... don't do drugs, kids! (Dude, how is drugs supposed to do with anything here?). Tsk... Shut up, me! It's an escape plan!

7h3101im4idw0lf
06-30-2009, 09:43 PM
Lol
Anyways realisticaly, I know there are no definites

Fantasy, HELL YA GIRL ON GIRL!!!

Lucky Flame
07-01-2009, 07:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQzupYwpPVE

Kona
07-01-2009, 08:54 AM
thats a cute video *downloads*

7h3101im4idw0lf
07-01-2009, 03:35 PM
There's this thing we user like to call

THE AMV THREAD!!! USE IT

Droote
07-15-2009, 03:40 AM
This is so true! "Fiend" means "enemy" or "foe", right?
Spoiled because of big size
http://animewriter.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/konata-and-kagami-motivator.jpg

Lucky Flame
07-15-2009, 03:52 AM
^Over used!

It seems to me when one person is always picking on the other, that one person always secretly likes the other person.

Anyone ever seen the crappy NA cartoon Hey, Arnold?

Droote
07-15-2009, 03:54 AM
^Yeah, and I never liked that cartoon.

Lucky Flame
07-15-2009, 03:56 AM
OT: I hate most cartoons in general.(Yes I know anime is a type of cartoon, but you know what I mean.)

I wonder how Konata would react if Kagami actually got a boyfriend that one time? ;)

Droote
07-15-2009, 03:59 AM
I don't think Konata liked Kagami that way, but she would probably be jealous because she wants a boyfriend too I guess.

Lucky Flame
07-15-2009, 04:05 AM
Certain official art says otherwise.

But I guess I would agree with you.

Droote
07-15-2009, 04:32 AM
yeah, but I would consider the official arts as fan service

Whitenblade
07-27-2009, 10:11 PM
I went to enraged-mode when I saw fan-art like such. I thought "Eh? Why do these perv-freaks always pick on the ???????/kawaiiest anime characters?". I seriously see no tangible or abstract evidence (apart from the mind-deploring fan-art, of course.) to suggest a relationship between Konata and Kagami. I guess a bunch of yuri-ists couldn't resist temptation...

Thane of Cawdor
08-26-2009, 03:54 AM
There may not be anything concrete, but if you rewatch the whole series and think about the possibility of it, there are only tiny, tiny hints, but there are quite a lot of them. Granted yuri-fiends could assume this about any two girls, head on over to fanfiction.net and notice the Lucky Star fanfics and how there are QUITE a lot of them that pair Konata and Kagami as a bit of a couple. So...this may be minor, but its not just a few people who picked up on this, its a bit more than a hint or suggestion, its as if they had them as a couple in the show but edited out each clip of them together, but left the context and bits in the rest of the show. We had the old debate called "the sappho factor" and its not too hard to say that its more than just a bit possible.[hr]
If you are looking for any doujin, feel free to check out Lonely Kagamin, but don't read Cicada Drizzle as that is hentai of the two.

Other piece of evidence is the LARGE number of doujins of those two, and I mean a large number of non-Hentai doujins...

7h3101im4idw0lf
08-26-2009, 04:21 AM
I read all posts uptill page 3 but I'm sorry, I have to get this out


WHAT WE WANT:

Konata and kagami are lesbians, that's what we want to see, what kyoani and kagami(the author) did was pretty ingenious...

The scenes that are played can be interpreted BOTH ways, depending on the viewers thoughts on the subject, but kyoani defintely went too far with 100% nai nai nai...

Waaaay too many suspicious lines, as states before, "you're 100% satisfied? I still had hope..." was too far, plus how she's going "oh god, why are we in different classes" is also a bit far when put together with the other lines

Now one MAY say "oh well she's referring to tsukasa" but think of it, during the whole song, it's obvious she's referring to konata "Ill show you my homework,I'll even help you buy those suspicious items" obviously, the only onein the anime who would buy "suspicious" items is konata and the although the anime imples thy kagami helps tsukasa with her homework, konata copying off kagami is clearly states and shown in the anime.

Considering all this, it's obvious kagami is ggoing deredere for konata..


However


Most of the"solid" proof is kyoanis OWN doing, yoshimizu(author) did not partake in the creation of the OVA OR the char songs...

In the anime itself, there are absolutely no DEFINITE evidence for the konakaga pairing...

But he DOES put scenes, as I've states before, scenes that can e interpreted differently depending on the person.

REALITY AND WHATS DEFINITE:

Like I said, it all depends on interpretation but when you think of it, aren't girls much more open and "touchy touchy" then guys?
You see girls running up to each other and hugging and holding hands all the time, now most of us ere are guys right?
What we may be doing is using OUR standards for "affection", note that girls are a bit different from us guys...

Oh and minami and yutaka aren't lesbians, same idea with the whole "girls are different" sense

Plus you always have that girl who's really open in that sense, the one who's all smiles and hugs and friendhip, the little angel of the class




In conclusion it's all depending on interpretation, yoshimizu was once asked about the whole konakaga thing in a interview but he refused to reply to that question, which shows that he probably doesn't have a definite and knows he's playing around the viewers





Edit:

That's one he'll of a long response I wrote on a itouch...[hr]

@ Misao:

there is no competition, Konata isn't manly at all, she's just perverted. Minami always protects Yutaka and looks out for her. That's what makes her the man.

which brings me to CYBERDISC.

In lesbian relationships, for the most part, there is usualy one who is the "man". The one who is more dominant, more protective, and possibly physicaly stronger is the "man". Just think about it, picture Minami as a boy, but acting the same as she usualy does, not too hard to believe, right? Now picture Yutaka as a man, relying on his girlfriend for protection. I don't think so...


Hey stop making konata sound bad jus cuz u don't like her... Fangface...(lol reference to last nights role playing thread)



There may not be anything concrete, but if you rewatch the whole series and think about the possibility of it, there are only tiny, tiny hints, but there are quite a lot of them. Granted yuri-fiends could assume this about any two girls, head on over to fanfiction.net and notice the Lucky Star fanfics and how there are QUITE a lot of them that pair Konata and Kagami as a bit of a couple. So...this may be minor, but its not just a few people who picked up on this, its a bit more than a hint or suggestion, its as if they had them as a couple in the show but edited out each clip of them together, but left the context and bits in the rest of the show. We had the old debate called "the sappho factor" and its not too hard to say that its more than just a bit possible.[hr]
If you are looking for any doujin, feel free to check out Lonely Kagamin, but don't read Cicada Drizzle as that is hentai of the two.

Other piece of evidence is the LARGE number of doujins of those two, and I mean a large number of non-Hentai doujins...


Lucky summer
Lucky future


Best konami fanfic there ever was, ever will be, and is just plain AMAZING

I could go on and on about that fanfic but it is just mind blowing[hr]

I read all posts uptill page 3 but I'm sorry, I have to get this out


WHAT WE WANT:

Konata and kagami are lesbians, that's what we want to see, what kyoani and kagami(the author) did was pretty ingenious...

The scenes that are played can be interpreted BOTH ways, depending on the viewers thoughts on the subject, but kyoani defintely went too far with 100% nai nai nai...

Waaaay too many suspicious lines, as states before, "you're 100% satisfied? I still had hope..." was too far, plus how she's going "oh god, why are we in different classes" is also a bit far when put together with the other lines

Now one MAY say "oh well she's referring to tsukasa" but think of it, during the whole song, it's obvious she's referring to konata "Ill show you my homework,I'll even help you buy those suspicious items" obviously, the only onein the anime who would buy "suspicious" items is konata and the although the anime imples thy kagami helps tsukasa with her homework, konata copying off kagami is clearly states and shown in the anime.

Considering all this, it's obvious kagami is ggoing deredere for konata..


However


Most of the"solid" proof is kyoanis OWN doing, yoshimizu(author) did not partake in the creation of the OVA OR the char songs...

In the anime itself, there are absolutely no DEFINITE evidence for the konakaga pairing...

But he DOES put scenes, as I've states before, scenes that can e interpreted differently depending on the person.

REALITY AND WHATS DEFINITE:

Like I said, it all depends on interpretation but when you think of it, aren't girls much more open and "touchy touchy" then guys?
You see girls running up to each other and hugging and holding hands all the time, now most of us ere are guys right?
What we may be doing is using OUR standards for "affection", note that girls are a bit different from us guys...

Oh and minami and yutaka aren't lesbians, same idea with the whole "girls are different" sense

Plus you always have that girl who's really open in that sense, the one who's all smiles and hugs and friendhip, the little angel of the class




In conclusion it's all depending on interpretation, yoshimizu was once asked about the whole konakaga thing in a interview but he refused to reply to that question, which shows that he probably doesn't have a definite and knows he's playing around the viewers





Edit:

That's one he'll of a long response I wrote on a itouch...[hr]

@ Misao:

there is no competition, Konata isn't manly at all, she's just perverted. Minami always protects Yutaka and looks out for her. That's what makes her the man.

which brings me to CYBERDISC.

In lesbian relationships, for the most part, there is usualy one who is the "man". The one who is more dominant, more protective, and possibly physicaly stronger is the "man". Just think about it, picture Minami as a boy, but acting the same as she usualy does, not too hard to believe, right? Now picture Yutaka as a man, relying on his girlfriend for protection. I don't think so...


Hey stop making konata sound bad jus cuz u don't like her... Fangface...(lol reference to last nights role playing thread)



There may not be anything concrete, but if you rewatch the whole series and think about the possibility of it, there are only tiny, tiny hints, but there are quite a lot of them. Granted yuri-fiends could assume this about any two girls, head on over to fanfiction.net and notice the Lucky Star fanfics and how there are QUITE a lot of them that pair Konata and Kagami as a bit of a couple. So...this may be minor, but its not just a few people who picked up on this, its a bit more than a hint or suggestion, its as if they had them as a couple in the show but edited out each clip of them together, but left the context and bits in the rest of the show. We had the old debate called "the sappho factor" and its not too hard to say that its more than just a bit possible.[hr]
If you are looking for any doujin, feel free to check out Lonely Kagamin, but don't read Cicada Drizzle as that is hentai of the two.

Other piece of evidence is the LARGE number of doujins of those two, and I mean a large number of non-Hentai doujins...


Lucky summer
Lucky future


Best konami fanfic there ever was, ever will be, and is just plain AMAZING

I could go on and on about that fanfic but it is just mind blowing

Lucky Flame
08-26-2009, 04:54 AM
^What's with the repeat post?

Shiraishi-kun
08-26-2009, 05:06 AM
I'm still going to stick with my feeling that Konata and Kagami love each other,but just don't know how to express it and don't know how it will affect the other or those around them, which is why they never engage in overtly lovey-dovey actions.

Misao
08-26-2009, 05:25 AM
^What's with the repeat post?


I'm sure it was by mistake.

7h3101im4idw0lf
08-26-2009, 05:58 AM
Oops! Didnt notice that double post

jbm0592
08-26-2009, 06:19 AM
I personally think that there is a relationship between the two, not just a, friends relationship, but a lesbian one. I myself am a VERY supportive fan of the couple. I guess you could call me a "fanboy", but please don't =/, that sounds stupid. But anyways, I don't really care if it may not be cannon, or that there's no evidence to support it. Personally, I wouldn't like to see it in the anime because one, I think it would ruin it for me, because I usually don't like the REAL pairings. (EX: I hate all of the real pairings in Strawberry Panic and would have rather seen Nagisa with Tamao, Yaya-chan with Hikari, ect.) And two, I think it would kind of ruin the "charm" Lucky Star itself has.

I also agree with 7h3d4rkw0lf about Lucky Summer. I myself, absolutely LOVED the fanfic. Everybody else may have hated or disliked it, but I loved it. Loved it enough to print the whole thing out and put it in a binder somewhere so I could take it with me and not have to go on the internet just to read it. The whole thing is also on my mp3 player because it has a text reader. I don't really like sequels though. As with the doujins, I don't like Lonely Kagamin, because Konata is just too damn whiny, grow up. And I really don't like any sex scenes or hentai of them together, I liked the scene in Lucky Summer because it was short and sweet, but not really anything else. It's kinda awkward imaging the two having sex with each other. Plus I like Shoujo-ai more than Yuri, simply because I like sweet, heart-warming stuff.

Simply put, I'm very supportive of the couple but only when it's a cute, cuddly heart-warming relationship, not a sexual one.

Kona
08-26-2009, 06:38 AM
^^ This

And teh hints really arent tiny. If you know about body language, you can spot it off the bat. But the point of this being KyoAnis doing is a good point and may have not been something yoshimizu intended. But for the anime series, body language is strongly hinted.

Supernova141
08-26-2009, 06:57 AM
And I really don't like any sex scenes or hentai of them together, I liked the scene in Lucky Summer because it was short and sweet, but not really anything else. It's kinda awkward imaging the two having sex with each other.


Why do i hear this all the time? I always hear people say that they don't like to read doujin about thier favorite characters, but i just don't understand that mentality. The more you like a character, the more you should want to see them gettin' their groove on, i fail to see how this would "soil" a character in your mind. You say you support the couple, but you don't want them to have sex? Are some kind of anti-sex nut or something?


I hate all of the real pairings in Strawberry Panic and would have rather seen Nagisa with Tamao, Yaya-chan with Hikari, etc.


Get out.

jbm0592
08-26-2009, 06:58 AM
I guess the best example of what I'm saying is the picture in my signature. I LOVE that, that's the kind of person I am. I would MUCH rather choose to cuddle with a girl I love all night then have sex with her. I mean, sure I may want to mess around a little bit and take some clothes off because I am a guy. And I don't mind when I see fanart or fanfiction like that. That's why I also agree with Kona, there is alot of body language in the anime, but I like that better then them just openly saying "I love you" or confessing to each other. I'd rather read it in fanfiction, and think it's better than way.

EDIT

Why do i hear this all the time? I always hear people say that they don't like to read doujin about thier favorite characters, but i just don't understand that mentality. The more you like a character, the more you should want to see them gettin' their groove on, i fail to see how this would "soil" a character in your mind. You say you support the couple, but you don't want them to have sex? Are some kind of anti-sex nut or something?

Well it's only that pairing really, because they're not really sexual at all.


Get out.


=/

Lucky Flame
08-26-2009, 07:11 AM
@ Supernova

I think the reason people would feel that a doujin would soil their favourite characters would be the fact that it's obviously not something the real characters would do, it just doesn't feel right. Or maybe something simple like they'll think about that doujin every time they see that character/s in the anime.
Personally, I'd love to see a Kyou x Kotomi doujin, but it would just be extremely out of character for them to do anything really sexual to each other. Maybe something less than that, more centred around romance maybe.

I guess the best example of what I'm saying is the picture in my signature. I LOVE that, that's the kind of person I am. I would MUCH rather choose to cuddle with a girl I love all night then have sex with her. I mean, sure I may want to mess around a little bit and take some clothes off because I am a guy. And I don't mind when I see fanart or fanfiction like that.
Agreed.


I also feel that the age difference in the Strawberry Panic main pairings are a little weird.

Thane of Cawdor
08-26-2009, 07:54 AM
Off topic, yo Supernova, you know damn well Hikari should have ended up with Yaya. I'd offer to defend this on a Strawberry Panic forum, but for the life of me, I can't figure out where most all of them went. Did they all get pulled from the whole internet?

Droote
08-26-2009, 09:19 AM
I'm against any Kagami x Konata pairing because that's not something the author (Kagami Yoshimizu) of LS would have approved. It's KyoAni who has given these small hints that fans have totally blown out of proportions.
EDIT: I think fans just desperatly want love in their animes, and when there is an abscent of male characters in LS, the female characters end up lesbian in the fans' heads. Just like Touhou; not a single male character, just hundreds of women, and of course much lesbian doujins.

7h3101im4idw0lf
08-26-2009, 06:59 PM
i have a fanfic for ls (still going, 20 chps, 60,000 words) and it aint lesbians...

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5045766/1/warriors_hearth

VK-Skelton
08-26-2009, 07:03 PM
I'm against any Kagami x Konata pairing because that's not something the author (Kagami Yoshimizu) of LS would have approved. It's KyoAni who has given these small hints that fans have totally blown out of proportions.
EDIT: I think fans just desperatly want love in their animes, and when there is an abscent of male characters in LS, the female characters end up lesbian in the fans' heads. Just like Touhou; not a single male character, just hundreds of women, and of course much lesbian doujins.

And Manosuke.
Can't forget Manosuke.

Also agree'd, I suppose.

Droote
08-26-2009, 07:46 PM
And Manosuke.
Can't forget Manosuke.


Okay, there are three men in the whole Touhou universe IIRC, but they are really, really rare and not much material to be used in doujins.

VK-Skelton
08-26-2009, 07:50 PM
Including the turtle?
Because I wouldn't want to see him in a doujin.

Droote
08-26-2009, 07:52 PM
Including the turtle?
Because I wouldn't want to see him in a doujin.


Genjii (http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Genjii) is one of the three, yes.

VK-Skelton
08-26-2009, 07:55 PM
Given how his rivals are a turtle and an old man who is never seen, it's no suprised Rinnosuke grew up to be the slut he is.

Droote
08-26-2009, 08:05 PM
LOL
If there is more to be discussed regarding Touhou, I suggest the Touhou thread, which is located in the Game & Computer forum, should be used instead of going way to off-topic here.

7h3101im4idw0lf
08-26-2009, 08:13 PM
and vk was a mod before!


lol


konakaga is cute

Shiraishi-kun
08-26-2009, 08:29 PM
and vk was a mod before!


lol


konakaga is cute


And, as Lonely Kagami has proven, it makes for great stories if done right.

7h3101im4idw0lf
08-26-2009, 08:42 PM
and vk was a mod before!


lol


konakaga is cute


And, as Lonely Kagami has proven, it makes for great stories if done right.


good story but i got depressed for a few days

Misao
08-26-2009, 08:49 PM
and vk was a mod before!


lol


konakaga is cute


And, as Lonely Kagami has proven, it makes for great stories if done right.


good story but i got depressed for a few days


That story was HEARTWRENCHING! I remember making a Big No (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BigNo) like every page. It sort of ended in an optimistic tone though.

Shiraishi-kun
08-26-2009, 08:59 PM
and vk was a mod before!


lol


konakaga is cute


And, as Lonely Kagami has proven, it makes for great stories if done right.


good story but i got depressed for a few days


That story was HEARTWRENCHING! I remember making a Big No (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BigNo) like every page. It sort of ended in an optimistic tone though.


Bjut, still, it was awesome.

7h3101im4idw0lf
08-26-2009, 09:14 PM
ive told everyone about my reason behind my depression right?

Droote
08-26-2009, 10:18 PM
^nope

jbm0592
08-26-2009, 10:43 PM
Lonely Kagamin
Meeeeh, once I saw that Konata had wrist cuts on her arm, I threw that aside.

7h3101im4idw0lf
08-27-2009, 12:21 AM
^nope




i pos ted it somehwere on this forum... lol

Droote
08-27-2009, 12:25 AM
^nope




i pos ted it somehwere on this forum... lol


explain or link please?

VK-Skelton
08-27-2009, 12:34 AM
Confessions thread?

Droote
08-27-2009, 12:57 AM
Oh, I see..

7h3101im4idw0lf
08-27-2009, 01:03 AM
nah that aint it but i did post somewhere, ill find it today or tomoro



EDIT:

all hail the search function





so I have a lot in common with konata and kagami, people should know.

Konata, I'm the type who leads the group in a way, I'm the "talkative" one of the group, im usually the only one making anime/manga references that no one gets, I have an ahoge(but that's not important) etc etc, I have more in common but it doesn't matter, the point being I have alot in common

Kagami, I get called tsundere by the people who know what it means, I'm usually also the "logical" of the group. I'm the one giving out the answers to homework, I'm the "disciplinarian" etc etc (again there's more but the point being the same as above)

So when I read the doujin, I was thinking, "if I'm so much like them now, could I possibly be like them when IM in college?"

Konata's "wrist cutting"

Kagami's "no friends"

Anyways so this similarity in my character and the LS chars got me depressed since I mean, who wants to be a social outcast or cut themselves?

I realize it's a doujin and is unofficial but with me, if I get into an anime, I start thinking of the characters as fellow friends, not fictious characters, buy as people eith their own lives and personalities

It's ridiculous, and I fully understand I sound like a complete psycho right now...

He'll thinking about the doujin is getting me teary right now... I can't see my itouch's keyboard lol...

So with the combination of my treatment of the LS characters (thinking of them as friends and people) and seeing them in such a pitiful situation

A) made me want to cry out of sadness, I mean If you saw your best friend in such a situation, you would feel crappy as hell wouldn't you?

B) with my similarities, It made me wonder if I would be like the two In the future as well.

Combine these two emotions, and they aren't light emotions, and I get depression for a week...

I cried the first day or two at random intervals...




Yes I completely realize and understand whoever is reading this is thinking something along the lines of
"this guy is a psycho"
"WTF is wrong with this guy"
"is this guy normal?"

And the like, I don't care, it's who I am...




If anyone remembers, on the old forum anyone remember the "OMFG we need to kill this person!" thread I posted?

It was a horror/tragedy "fanfic"(like hell the author is a "fan") called "ahoge" on fanfiction.net

It basically brutally murdered almost every character in lucky star and I accidently stumbled upon it, and read the first chapter.

The first one on the gruesome list, was my anime crush and will be my true, konata

Beheadment by tsukasa

I think that's enough said I describe it...

So to me, it wasn't just a fictious character dying

It was seeing a friend who I "loved" being brutally murdered in front of me... And by another friend...

It made me puke first of all, (gruesome details were included in the story) and second, it made me depressed all over again

Same process as lonely kagami but of a greater degree since it was death, rather than resolution like lonely kagami

Anyways i've types enough on a itouch for now (yes I types all of this on a itouch)

Droote
08-27-2009, 01:12 AM
^Ahhh. That doujin sounded fucking depressing! I don't think I'll read it.

7h3101im4idw0lf
08-27-2009, 01:14 AM
which one? lonely kagami or ahoge?

lonely kagami is good, ahoge should burn

Droote
08-27-2009, 01:17 AM
I was thinking of Lonely Kagami, but a Lucky Star masacre is something I also will steer away from.

jbm0592
08-27-2009, 01:41 AM
Probably the best Konami doujin would have to be this one(spoiled for large image and somewhat NSFW) -
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/6163/000a.jpg
It's here (http://rapidshare.com/files/146580091/_Enuos_Press__Kona_Kaga__Konami___Yuri___Lucky_Sta r_.zip) if anyone wants it.

7h3101im4idw0lf
08-27-2009, 01:45 AM
i love you, no homo

Droote
08-27-2009, 01:48 AM
I don't like kagami x konata but this picture was really well drawn.

7h3101im4idw0lf
08-27-2009, 01:50 AM
extremely well drawn, almost like the actual thing


edit: haha nice jbm, youre making me tear up again but with joy :*)

Yagami9000
09-07-2009, 02:26 AM
I'm against any Kagami x Konata pairing because that's not something the author (Kagami Yoshimizu) of LS would have approved. It's KyoAni who has given these small hints that fans have totally blown out of proportions.
EDIT: I think fans just desperatly want love in their animes, and when there is an abscent of male characters in LS, the female characters end up lesbian in the fans' heads. Just like Touhou; not a single male character, just hundreds of women, and of course much lesbian doujins.


Actually, in an interview I saw somewhere Kagami Yoshimizu said that while he did not intend for Konata and Kagami to be a yuri pairing, he has no problem with people seeing them as one. So, no, it doesn't sound like he's offended by it.

7h3101im4idw0lf
09-07-2009, 02:28 AM
I'm against any Kagami x Konata pairing because that's not something the author (Kagami Yoshimizu) of LS would have approved. It's KyoAni who has given these small hints that fans have totally blown out of proportions.
EDIT: I think fans just desperatly want love in their animes, and when there is an abscent of male characters in LS, the female characters end up lesbian in the fans' heads. Just like Touhou; not a single male character, just hundreds of women, and of course much lesbian doujins.


Actually, in an interview I saw somewhere Kagami Yoshimizu said that while he did not intend for Konata and Kagami to be a yuri pairing, he has no problem with people seeing them as one. So, no, it doesn't sound like he's offended by it.


actually he said "no comment"


someone "translated" his meaning in the "no comment" though

VK-Skelton
09-07-2009, 02:39 AM
Actually, in an interview I saw somewhere Kagami Yoshimizu said that while he did not intend for Konata and Kagami to be a yuri pairing, he has no problem with people seeing them as one. So, no, it doesn't sound like he's offended by it.


actually he said "no comment"


someone "translated" his meaning in the "no comment" though


Oh, those crafty fanboys!

7h3101im4idw0lf
09-07-2009, 02:45 AM
tis why the falsehood of man has taken its thresh holds upon us


that made no sense but who cares?

jbm0592
09-07-2009, 05:05 AM
Who cares if the author doesn't approve of it anyway? I'd rather him not.

7h3101im4idw0lf
09-07-2009, 07:29 AM
I remember trying to write a konakaga once


I read it over once and deleted the whole damn thing and vowed to not write anoter konakaga in a while

However I am continuing Warriors Hearth, which is currently up to 20 chps (60,000+ words) and I'm halfway done with chp21 right now ( http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5045766/1/ )



But that's off topic, the point is, read my message I posted on the last page, I explain very clearly the "relationship" that almost everyone can agree on[hr]
I remember trying to write a konakaga once


I read it over once and deleted the whole damn thing and vowed to not write anoter konakaga in a while

However I am continuing Warriors Hearth, which is currently up to 20 chps (60,000+ words) and I'm halfway done with chp21 right now ( http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5045766/1/ )



But that's off topic, the point is, read my message I posted on the last page, I explain very clearly the "relationship" that almost everyone can agree on

Konata_is_Mine
09-09-2009, 01:07 PM
Wait.... I thought we ended this debate back in June... I've been gone to long /off topic

7h3101im4idw0lf
09-09-2009, 07:48 PM
its still ont opic, what utalkin bout?

Thane of Cawdor
10-06-2009, 03:38 AM
Yeah lets bring this back! Rememeber in episode 20 when Konata is playing that dating sim...look what the characters say. Then listen to what they say to her. Sounds an awful lot like someone who is watching her play that sim who is in the same room. Subtle? Yeah. But theres a lot of these subtleties, quite a bit...

Misao
10-06-2009, 04:48 AM
Yeah lets bring this back! Rememeber in episode 20 when Konata is playing that dating sim...look what the characters say. Then listen to what they say to her. Sounds an awful lot like someone who is watching her play that sim who is in the same room. Subtle? Yeah. But theres a lot of these subtleties, quite a bit...


I don't....... quite remember. I have to watch it again. One of the great things about Lucky Star is that you always have to rewatch episodes because you forget so much! :D

Shiraishi-kun
10-06-2009, 03:52 PM
Yeah lets bring this back! Rememeber in episode 20 when Konata is playing that dating sim...look what the characters say. Then listen to what they say to her. Sounds an awful lot like someone who is watching her play that sim who is in the same room. Subtle? Yeah. But theres a lot of these subtleties, quite a bit...


I don't....... quite remember. I have to watch it again. One of the great things about Lucky Star is that you always have to rewatch episodes because you forget so much! :D


*tries to fight the urge to tell others to watch the subs instead*

Konata_is_Mine
10-06-2009, 11:14 PM
^ That's the truth!

Misao
10-10-2009, 01:21 AM
Putting more firewood into the fire...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qSkQ1xjvFY

Droote
10-10-2009, 01:52 AM
^Is that from Avenue Q?

Shiraishi-kun
10-10-2009, 03:14 AM
^Is that from Avenue Q?


Yes it is.

Misao
10-10-2009, 04:43 AM
^Is that from Avenue Q?


Yes it is.

Supernova141
10-10-2009, 07:20 AM
Putting more firewood into the fire...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qSkQ1xjvFY


That's freakin awesome xD

Whitenblade
10-10-2009, 12:28 PM
*smashes tomahawk into self's face*

Lucky Flame
10-10-2009, 02:44 PM
Oh my god that was the best. And those voices fit them.

Thane of Cawdor
10-10-2009, 07:41 PM
Holy shit give me that tomohawk, I need to kill myself

#1 Lucky Star Fan
11-11-2009, 07:53 PM
Is official art good enough? Spoiler tag is to save space.

http://anime2.kokidokom.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/konata-x-kagami.jpg


Did I already say this? I think that's cute xD;;;

Thane of Cawdor
11-11-2009, 10:29 PM
Oh that is my background.

Supernova! What the hell is the matter with your sig? No no no, wrong pairing! No way Hikari is gonna end up with Chikaru of all people, maybe Chikaru is a seductress as well, but not as long as Yaya is still alive. I mean Chikaru would literally have to kill Yaya for that to happen. No freakin way man.

Michiyo
11-11-2009, 11:22 PM
Oh that is my background.

Supernova! What the hell is the matter with your sig? No no no, wrong pairing! No way Hikari is gonna end up with Chikaru of all people, maybe Chikaru is a seductress as well, but not as long as Yaya is still alive. I mean Chikaru would literally have to kill Yaya for that to happen. No freakin way man.


And she would also have to kill Amane.

But it doesn't really make any sense--why would Hikari love Chikaru if she killed Yaya and/or Amane?

But anyways, let's try to avoid getting too off-topic ~nyaa-nyaa...

[/Hypocritical humour]

Delfringher
12-02-2009, 02:01 AM
In my opinion, i could see Konata as more of a "Bi" type, no that there is anything wrong with that.
I can see her with a boyfriend, but I can also see her with Kagami.
And in my opinion, I would rather see her with Kagami, I think they make a lovely couple. ♥///♥

furball
12-02-2009, 02:05 AM
In my opinion, i could see Konata as more of a "Bi" type, no that there is anything wrong with that.
I can see her with a boyfriend, but I can also see her with Kagami.
And in my opinion, I would rather see her with Kagami, I think they make a lovely couple. ♥///♥

Great post newbie!

Konata_is_Mine
12-02-2009, 02:06 AM
In my opinion, i could see Konata as more of a "Bi" type, no that there is anything wrong with that.
I can see her with a boyfriend, but I can also see her with Kagami.
And in my opinion, I would rather see her with Kagami, I think they make a lovely couple. ♥///♥
Whats this? You would rather see her with Kagami?!! Look at my username and think that over! No pressure. *prepares Falcon Punch*

furball
12-02-2009, 02:14 AM
Whats this? You would rather see her with Kagami?!! Look at my username and think that over! No pressure. *prepares Falcon Punch*

maybe you're kagami?

Delfringher
12-02-2009, 02:15 AM
Great post newbie!

:<

*cries*

but yes, i would rather see konata with kagami.......or me ;3c

Konata_is_Mine
12-02-2009, 02:16 AM
maybe you're kagami?
I'm a guy....

furball
12-02-2009, 02:16 AM
:<

*cries*

but yes, i would rather see konata with kagami.......or me ;3c

It wasn't sarcasm btw

Michiyo
12-02-2009, 02:16 AM
In my opinion, i could see Konata as more of a "Bi" type, no that there is anything wrong with that.
I can see her with a boyfriend, but I can also see her with Kagami.
And in my opinion, I would rather see her with Kagami, I think they make a lovely couple. ♥///♥

I wholeheartedly agree with you ~nyaa-nyaa. ♥

Whats this? You would rather see her with Kagami?!! Look at my username and think that over! No pressure. *prepares Falcon Punch*

Relax... Maybe Konata is polygamous... You never know ~nyaa-nyaa...

furball
12-02-2009, 02:19 AM
join the konataxkagami forever club! *throws lily petals*

Delfringher
12-02-2009, 02:21 AM
I wholeheartedly agree with you ~nyaa-nyaa. ♥



Relax... Maybe Konata is polygamous... You never know ~nyaa-nyaa...

Someone whom agrees with me! :3

Konata_is_Mine
12-02-2009, 02:22 AM
..... *FALCONPUNCH*

furball
12-02-2009, 02:23 AM
Kagami wouldn't be happy...*shudders* mad tsundere.

Dlanor
12-02-2009, 02:24 AM
In my opinion, i could see Konata as more of a "Bi" type, no that there is anything wrong with that.
I can see her with a boyfriend, but I can also see her with Kagami.
And in my opinion, I would rather see her with Kagami, I think they make a lovely couple. ♥///♥

Best name I've ever seen.

Delfringher
12-02-2009, 02:28 AM
Best name I've ever seen.

Thanks :3c
I love my name for its originality!

veehive
12-02-2009, 02:59 AM
maybe you're kagami?
I'm a guy....

... as is Kagami Yoshimizu ....

furball
12-02-2009, 03:02 AM
... as is Kagami Yoshimizu ....

pwnt! wait, that makes no sense.

Konata_is_Mine
12-02-2009, 03:03 AM
Yes!
IMA KAGAMI =D

furball
12-02-2009, 03:07 AM
Yes!
IMA KAGAMI =D

pfft, ...I? is more tsundere than you. And also, I have a nagato sig now! HA! if i figure out how to use it...

Konata_is_Mine
12-02-2009, 03:20 AM
Nagato is MINE. Really since Shiriashi already took Konata...

furball
12-02-2009, 03:24 AM
What is that in my sig I wonder? YUKI IS MINE! *pulls out notebook* SAKUJO!

Konata_is_Mine
12-02-2009, 03:28 AM
Whats that in MY Sig??! It was there before yours =D I just took a break from that Graphic for a while since I got bored =p Really, the Yuki one has only been gone for 2 days.

furball
12-02-2009, 03:29 AM
um, oh yeah? well I went to the library with yuki more times than you!

Hikari-chan
12-02-2009, 03:32 AM
Get back on topic, please. Take it to the chatbox or PM, but don't discuss this here, thanks~

furball
12-02-2009, 03:35 AM
SORRY HIKARI-SAMA

back on topic. I always felt Konata was bi and Kagami was more of a if it's you it's okay type.
Konata is the seme and Kagami is the uke.

Supernova141
12-02-2009, 03:49 AM
Supernova! What the hell is the matter with your sig? No no no, wrong pairing!
This is the ONLY decent yuri pic with Chikaru in it, so I really don't care who she's with =\

furball
12-02-2009, 04:36 AM
*ahem* stay on topic.

Lucky Flame
12-02-2009, 04:46 AM
As of now I can truthfully say that realistically Kagami sees Konata as a friend that is mildly annoying sometimes. Although their coupling is just a perfect set up for fans etc.

furball
12-02-2009, 05:45 AM
As of now I can truthfully say that realistically Kagami sees Konata as a friend that is mildly annoying sometimes. Although their coupling is just a perfect set up for fans etc.

well isn't most pairings by fans?

Droote
12-02-2009, 08:24 AM
As of now I can truthfully say that realistically Kagami sees Konata as a friend that is mildly annoying sometimes.

Is it annoying that she sees Konata as her friend and nothing more?

Dally
12-02-2009, 04:31 PM
^ Yes it does, it's as if they're trying to annoy us with their suggestive stuff. :(

Delfringher
12-02-2009, 05:33 PM
SORRY HIKARI-SAMA

back on topic. I always felt Konata was bi and Kagami was more of a if it's you it's okay type.
Konata is the seme and Kagami is the uke.

I can easily see Kagami being the uke, but sometimes Konata being a uke is good too ya know ;3

furball
12-02-2009, 10:55 PM
Is it annoying that she sees Konata as her friend and nothing more?

word of god (kagami) says that the relationship is at least one sided.

Droote
12-03-2009, 12:31 AM
The relationship is none-sided.

VK-Skelton
12-03-2009, 12:41 AM
word of god (kagami) says that the relationship is at least one sided.
Didn't he say there was no romance in the series or something?
As far as the manga goes (big K's department), it seems to be more about Yutaka/Minami, with not much else going on.
Yes, I shouldn't have read vol. 3 without reading vol. 2 first, want to fight about it?

Droote
12-03-2009, 12:52 AM
Didn't he say there was no romance in the series or something?
As far as the manga goes (big K's department), it seems to be more about Yutaka/Minami, with not much else going on.
Yes, I shouldn't have read vol. 3 without reading vol. 2 first, want to fight about it?

I think he did. And you're right about Yutaka and Minami. They are actually being suggested to have something between them. The anime is just giving some faint fan service when Kagami and Konata are concerned.

furball
12-03-2009, 02:47 AM
Everyone could tell Minami and Yutaka had a special bond even without hiyori's yuri googles. As for Konata and Kagami, most of them, especially the dream sequence in the OVA, was ship teases.

Michiyo
12-03-2009, 03:11 AM
word of god (kagami) says that the relationship is at least one sided.

I've also heard that someplace else before ~nyaa-nyaa.

The relationship is none-sided.

This post quoted for epic fail

Hikari-chan
12-03-2009, 03:42 AM
I don't know if it's been posted, I rarely visit here, but here you go, everyone. *Slowly backs away*

Image is safe, spoilered for size.
http://i50.tinypic.com/2n6chty.png

CYBERDISC
12-03-2009, 03:52 AM
I don't know if it's been posted, I rarely visit here, but here you go, everyone. *Slowly backs away*

Image is safe, spoilered for size.
http://i50.tinypic.com/2n6chty.png

I can't see it ;-;

furball
12-03-2009, 03:54 AM
I don't know if it's been posted, I rarely visit here, but here you go, everyone. *Slowly backs away*

Image is safe, spoilered for size.
http://i50.tinypic.com/2n6chty.png

I'm not worthy enough to view it ;_;

Michiyo
12-03-2009, 04:21 AM
I can't see it ;-;

I can't see it either ~nyaa-nyaa... ;-;

Lucky Flame
12-03-2009, 04:24 AM
That's because Hikari fails to put anything in the spoiler. <_<

http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww287/FireDemon2370/wtfnothing.jpg

Hikari-chan
12-03-2009, 04:26 AM
Sorry about that, I fixed it~

@L_F: Actually, I forgot to re-upload to TinyPic, and it was from a website that didn't allow direct-linking and I completely spaced out when I c/p'd.

Michiyo
12-03-2009, 04:27 AM
That's because Hikari fails to put anything in the spoiler. <_<

http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww287/FireDemon2370/wtfnothing.jpg

I know, I was just saying, cuz no-one could see it ~nyaa-nyaa... >_>

Lucky Flame
12-03-2009, 04:27 AM
Lol, that's hilarious Hikari.

furball
12-03-2009, 04:29 AM
I have that doujin. Eunos Press right?

Delfringher
12-03-2009, 06:45 AM
I have that doujin. Eunos Press right?
correct, epic one i must say.

furball
12-03-2009, 06:50 AM
Kagami harbors feelings for Konata (100% nai nai nai)

7h3101im4idw0lf
12-04-2009, 04:36 AM
/OMG KONAKAGA BY EUNOS?!?!?!?! BEST F-ING KONAKAGA (non H) DOUJIN EVER

furball
12-04-2009, 04:40 AM
No h-scenes plz, it contradicts with lucky star's cheery nature.

7h3101im4idw0lf
12-04-2009, 04:45 AM
I just said "non-H" lol, meaning non hentai, it's 100% SFW but still REALLY good and really sweet, it made me teary T_T

Delfringher
12-04-2009, 04:45 AM
No h-scenes plz, it contradicts with lucky star's cheery nature.

Kona x Kaga H-scenes...
GET!

7h3101im4idw0lf
12-04-2009, 04:47 AM
Kona x Kaga H-scenes...
GET!


A gift from me :D

NSFW --> http://www.luckystarshrine.com/img/lsh/res/45.html <--NSFW

furball
12-04-2009, 04:50 AM
Be careful with the doujins. One of them made me need brain bleach.
On topic, why must Yoshimizu tease us with those ship teases?Woohoo! The 2nd volume of the manga in English. There's a strip where Miyuki is Sōjirō's daughter and Yukari his wife!. And, another one where Patty admires Konata for having so many options for lovers. Meaning, girls. Kagami, Tsukasa, Miyuki, and so on. And Konata says "For now, I have no interest in being a lesbian in real life." For now. So it might well happen later. (#_#) Oh yeah, this is the real, canon, Lucky Star manga I'm talking about. I'm not kidding!

7h3101im4idw0lf
12-04-2009, 05:00 AM
It's not a doujin, it's a game(visual novel styled actually)(along with the CG set)

Anyways, Yeah I remember that part, I have all the volumes in japanese lol

Droote
12-04-2009, 08:52 AM
It's not a doujin, it's a game(visual novel styled actually)(along with the CG set)

Anyways, Yeah I remember that part, I have all the volumes in japanese lol

But it is a doujin game, right? I can't remember any official Visual Novels from LS.

Delfringher
12-05-2009, 12:29 AM
But it is a doujin game, right? I can't remember any official Visual Novels from LS.

There arnt any sadly :<

furball
12-05-2009, 01:23 AM
There arnt any sadly :<

There's the playstation one right?

Shiraishi-kun
12-05-2009, 01:26 AM
But it is a doujin game, right? I can't remember any official Visual Novels from LS.

There was Ryouou Gakuen Otosai.

Delfringher
12-05-2009, 01:26 AM
There's the playstation one right?
THERE WAS A VISUAL NOVEL FOR LUCKY STAR? :O

furball
12-05-2009, 01:31 AM
THERE WAS A VISUAL NOVEL FOR LUCKY STAR? :O

yeah. it has aliens in it and weird stuff you play as a guy, so no konakaga ;-;

Delfringher
12-05-2009, 01:33 AM
MUST PLAY.

furball
12-05-2009, 01:55 AM
bad news everyone:
another one where Patty admires Konata for having so many options for lovers. Meaning, girls. Kagami, Tsukasa, Miyuki, and so on. And Konata says "For now, I have no interest in being a lesbian in real life." For now. So it might well happen later.

Delfringher
12-05-2009, 02:00 AM
bad news everyone:
another one where Patty admires Konata for having so many options for lovers. Meaning, girls. Kagami, Tsukasa, Miyuki, and so on. And Konata says "For now, I have no interest in being a lesbian in real life." For now. So it might well happen later.

FOR NOW, dont worry.
Konata is only t3elling Patty that because kagami told Konata to keep their love a secret until they decided to marry into their love nest >;3

furball
12-05-2009, 02:03 AM
I still want Kagami to put some romance into this yonkoma.

7h3101im4idw0lf
12-05-2009, 04:04 AM
Tbh Id rather not hav it official

furball
12-05-2009, 04:21 AM
Tbh Id rather not hav it official

u r rite. It's much more fun imagining it then having it official.

Delfringher
12-05-2009, 09:34 AM
An entire visual novel made in the form of yuri love between konata and kagamiin...
WIN.

furball
12-05-2009, 08:20 PM
An entire visual novel made in the form of yuri love between konata and kagamiin...
WIN.

WHERE IS IT
I want it so much I"m doing what konata was doing in episode 24

Delfringher
12-05-2009, 10:00 PM
WHERE IS IT
I want it so much I"m doing what konata was doing in episode 24
no, there isnt one, there needs to be one though.

7h3101im4idw0lf
12-05-2009, 10:26 PM
An entire visual novel made in the form of yuri love between konata and kagamiin...
WIN.
-.-

--> NSFW http://www.luckystarshrine.com/img/lsh/res/45.html NSFW <--


I deliver

Delfringher
12-05-2009, 10:28 PM
-.-

--> NSFW http://www.luckystarshrine.com/img/lsh/res/45.html NSFW <--


I deliver
50/50 fail.
lol, its half way konaxkaga, rest is not but its still good, so me must thanks ye.

7h3101im4idw0lf
12-05-2009, 10:30 PM
lol I've been posting links for a while now >_>

and it's the best thing you're going to get if you want it in a interactive style and not all pics and doujins :P

at least that's the only one that's even halfway decently drawn I know of

Delfringher
12-05-2009, 10:37 PM
lol I've been posting links for a while now >_>

and it's the best thing you're going to get if you want it in a interactive style and not all pics and doujins :P

at least that's the only one that's even halfway decently drawn I know of

no no no dont worry, its very good indeed, sorry if i offended you darkwolf >.<;;

7h3101im4idw0lf
12-05-2009, 10:39 PM
I am very very hard to offend, the only time I ever get offended is with racist jokes that go a bit over the edge and are meant to hurt me, almost never get offended by those either so dont worry about offending me

Delfringher
12-05-2009, 10:47 PM
anyone remember in the OVA when Kagami said "I want to &%@* with Konata!" to release the magic spell?
yea, that signals the fact that konata loves kagami.

7h3101im4idw0lf
12-05-2009, 10:49 PM
but one can counter it's not Yoshimizu's intention as he did not have ANY part in the making of the OVA, all suggestive hints towards a KonaKaga pairing are done by KyoAni, eg, Kagami's character songs

furball
12-05-2009, 10:52 PM
but one can counter it's not Yoshimizu's intention as he did not have ANY part in the making of the OVA, all suggestive hints towards a KonaKaga pairing are done by KyoAni, eg, Kagami's character songs

curses! more ship teases!

Michiyo
12-05-2009, 10:54 PM
How about, just "Konata and Kagami are in love, end of thread" ~nyaa-nyaa?

*Braces self against what Droote might say in response to this*

Delfringher
12-05-2009, 10:54 PM
but one can counter it's not Yoshimizu's intention as he did not have ANY part in the making of the OVA, all suggestive hints towards a KonaKaga pairing are done by KyoAni, eg, Kagami's character songs
KYAAA...
it hurts...ive been hit...

hey?
at least it gives us yuri fans hope right?
N-NO, WE NEED MORE THAN HOPE...THIS IS DESTINY, I KNOW THAT KONATA AND KAGAMI ARE DESTINED FOR EACH OTHER!

furball
12-05-2009, 10:55 PM
How about, just "Konata and Kagami are in love, end of thread" ~nyaa-nyaa?

*Braces self against what Droote might say in response to this*

no official evidence sadly,

7h3101im4idw0lf
12-05-2009, 10:57 PM
That's why you read the fanfic called "Lucky Summer" and "Lucky Future" both by rezzlevettems on fanfiction.net


the story is a fcking novel, it's over 200,000 words in total i beleive, 100+ chapters, took me a week to read the whole damn thing and I read fast like a bitch >:O


but its... amazing beyond words, I would recommend it to anyone and everyone, yuri fan or not, it's just so emotionally deep and intelectually satisfying

furball
12-05-2009, 10:59 PM
That's why you read the fanfic called "Lucky Summer" and "Lucky Future" both by rezzlevettems on fanfiction.net


the story is a fcking novel, it's over 200,000 words in total i beleive, 100+ chapters, took me a week to read the whole damn thing and I read fast like a bitch >:O


but its... amazing beyond words, I would recommend it to anyone and everyone, yuri fan or not, it's just so emotionally deep and intelectually satisfying

I posted some great fanfic recs in the konata and kagami forever thread.

7h3101im4idw0lf
12-05-2009, 11:03 PM
I can't seem to write any romance fanfics :-/

I used to be able to, and I tried again by rewriting The Lost Dimension but... i feel so... guilty when I write lol

which is why i continued Warriors Hearth and not TLD, although I haven't updated WH in months...

Delfringher
12-05-2009, 11:04 PM
I posted some great fanfic recs in the konata and kagami forever thread.
he did, and they were good.

7h3101im4idw0lf
12-05-2009, 11:05 PM
none can surpass Lucky Summer and Lucky Future

Michiyo
12-05-2009, 11:09 PM
none can surpass Lucky Summer and Lucky Future

IMO, "Level Up! Love!" and its sequel (which is still in progress) surpass them ~nyaa-nyaa.

Delfringher
12-05-2009, 11:11 PM
none can surpass Lucky Summer and Lucky Future
seen Lucky Autumn?
It's a non-h doujin kona x kaga themed.

7h3101im4idw0lf
12-05-2009, 11:17 PM
Meh, didn't really like Level Up!

and no havent seen lucky autumn, will check out

Misao
12-05-2009, 11:41 PM
none can surpass Lucky Summer and Lucky Future

Or Lonely Kagami. ;)

7h3101im4idw0lf
12-06-2009, 12:38 AM
lonely kagami got me depressed it was so good, long story

Misao
12-06-2009, 01:01 AM
lonely kagami got me depressed it was so good, long story
I was sad, but I never felt like crying. :O

Shiraishi-kun
12-06-2009, 01:27 AM
I was sad, but I never felt like crying. :O

Lonely Kagami was the best doujin EVER.